vamsi_poondla
02-14 12:56 PM
Let us get started with legal opinion of Rajiv Khanna. I believe we have strong grounds for the class action law suit for past sins of USCIS - not utilizing full capacity of VISAs for GC processing. That is defintely operational inefficiency. But USCIS might claim that this may never happen again now that the name check requirement is waived off after 180 days.
Around 80 people voted for the law suit. I am willing to contribute $10 thru Paypal on my part. Please pitch in to make it $600 for the consultation. Then one of the folks in DC can get in touch with Rajiv.
lazycis/hopefulgc I am willing to send $10 as a token of support for your initiative. I am impressed by your confidence and conviction. Let us form a new group and we will definitely get moral support from all good IV members. Personally I dont want to be plaintiff as I have too much to loose. But I support your group. Waiting for your direction.
Around 80 people voted for the law suit. I am willing to contribute $10 thru Paypal on my part. Please pitch in to make it $600 for the consultation. Then one of the folks in DC can get in touch with Rajiv.
lazycis/hopefulgc I am willing to send $10 as a token of support for your initiative. I am impressed by your confidence and conviction. Let us form a new group and we will definitely get moral support from all good IV members. Personally I dont want to be plaintiff as I have too much to loose. But I support your group. Waiting for your direction.
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sk2006
08-16 01:51 AM
The original post was not about SRK detention.. but it was giving an idea of US immigration system. Well everyone here is singing praises of US immigration system.. if anyone of you will be detained if simillar name flashes on their computer and detained for hours and sent back then i hope you guys don't change your tune.. Thanks for all your reds.. looks like some people over here are interested in green or red.. crazy guys!!! go get a life.
Can you point to a single post praising the immigration system.
Can you point to a single post praising the immigration system.
stuckinmuck
04-26 01:58 PM
Hello all,
Any news on what happened on the decision on suspension/removal of labor substitution? I searched in google but couldn't find any updates.
Also, any idea of how much relief this would offer for GC retrogression?
Thanks
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Any news on what happened on the decision on suspension/removal of labor substitution? I searched in google but couldn't find any updates.
Also, any idea of how much relief this would offer for GC retrogression?
Thanks
Contribution so far: $1000
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breddy2000
07-29 01:52 PM
There are 26 E2 for bombay. Delhi data was for July. Assumption will be around 100 for CP for whole of India.
Are we not supposed to count dependents with the applications? Or does it mean each individual is treated seperately irrespective of being depenedent in CP?
Are we not supposed to count dependents with the applications? Or does it mean each individual is treated seperately irrespective of being depenedent in CP?
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harikris
05-30 11:56 PM
Belmontboy ..Thanks for the same ..as I said earlier any campaign should highlight the positive aspects of legal immigration ..fighting over EB1 misuse is not going to help. I am a prospective home buyer and in the last few months, I met 8 buyer / seller agents ..they are literally sweating for any business ...at the very least let us show the positive contribution that immigrants have for the housing and other related economy (which is massive in terms of $$$$$). I am sure everyone will agree that this is better than fighting over EB1 misuse and fighting amongst ourselves
1. If there are half a million people stuck in the immigration system, atleast half of them would be Mr. Hiralal-types whose buying potential could be between 150K$ to 250K$. That's an average of 50 Billion $s
2. If Mr. Hiralal-types bought a house today, that would dry out the foreclosure inventories for precisely one month. If all the EB immigrants were to buy a home, that would stem help for two months at the current supply rate of homes piling to the inventory.
How would the policy-makers look at these numbers?
Let's keep Hiralal's point as one of the several reasons for pushing for reform. But, the broader perspective is to reform the way the Govt. processes immigrant application. We should strive for permanent solutions - removing of country quota and make it true capitalist nature - let supply and demand dictate who can get in and how many can get in. If diversity is the reasoning for country quota, then India should be given 25 times 7 which is 175% because we are 25 counties put in one.
Economic situations and foreclosures are all fleeting effects. While we can leverage on these facts our argument for reform should not be based on variants.
1. If there are half a million people stuck in the immigration system, atleast half of them would be Mr. Hiralal-types whose buying potential could be between 150K$ to 250K$. That's an average of 50 Billion $s
2. If Mr. Hiralal-types bought a house today, that would dry out the foreclosure inventories for precisely one month. If all the EB immigrants were to buy a home, that would stem help for two months at the current supply rate of homes piling to the inventory.
How would the policy-makers look at these numbers?
Let's keep Hiralal's point as one of the several reasons for pushing for reform. But, the broader perspective is to reform the way the Govt. processes immigrant application. We should strive for permanent solutions - removing of country quota and make it true capitalist nature - let supply and demand dictate who can get in and how many can get in. If diversity is the reasoning for country quota, then India should be given 25 times 7 which is 175% because we are 25 counties put in one.
Economic situations and foreclosures are all fleeting effects. While we can leverage on these facts our argument for reform should not be based on variants.
_TrueFacts
09-04 07:54 PM
Admins - can some one please close this thread. This is thread is neither about immigration nor will anything good come out of this.
yetanotherguyinline,
You may not care, but many members do care about what's happening in India.
yetanotherguyinline,
You may not care, but many members do care about what's happening in India.
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boreal
05-29 01:45 PM
I strongly feel you guys are right regarding EB1 misuse. I also know of some people who are applying in EB1 using these loopholes. we should do something to stop this fraud.
So overall maybe 2k-3k EB1s are gone to those fraudsters! Big deal? How good a visa movement will we get if we prevent that? By stirring this stink pit, we are only doing more damage to our cause. This is another bullet for those antis to pick up on and malign us even further. Why even discuss such things?
So overall maybe 2k-3k EB1s are gone to those fraudsters! Big deal? How good a visa movement will we get if we prevent that? By stirring this stink pit, we are only doing more damage to our cause. This is another bullet for those antis to pick up on and malign us even further. Why even discuss such things?
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extra_mint
09-15 12:26 PM
Totally Agree with your assumptions, there are few more that can be added like
Some 3-5% people with PD 2005 - 2006 are already approved (as low hanging fruits) during 2008 Aug-Oct period.
Also recent span of RFE's by USCIS (for preadjudication) resulted in flushing out of some applications
In short pending EB2 numbers that you are taking into account will be 10 to 20% less and available visa numbers from spill overs will be 20 to 30% more than what you projects. So forward movement will surely be there.
However there is a doubt related to spill overs every quarter !!
Allocations are surely made on quarter to quarter basis but there is no certain precedence in the past for spill overs, well i would say the past has been shady
I recall once VB where EB2 I was giving numbers from EB1 and this was before the last quarter (happened in FY 2008). We have to wait till Dec, 2009 Bulletin.
The analysis is very optimistic and does not account for
Duplicates (multiple I-485 for same person)
Discarded Labor (many people just discard the perm since they switch jobs or did not want to do GC)
Upgrades (people had EB2 perm but got GC in EB1 category)
Cross-chargeability (with spouse of PERM hold birth from non retrogressed country)
If they all makeup to 10-20% of applicants then the PD will move much faster.
Some 3-5% people with PD 2005 - 2006 are already approved (as low hanging fruits) during 2008 Aug-Oct period.
Also recent span of RFE's by USCIS (for preadjudication) resulted in flushing out of some applications
In short pending EB2 numbers that you are taking into account will be 10 to 20% less and available visa numbers from spill overs will be 20 to 30% more than what you projects. So forward movement will surely be there.
However there is a doubt related to spill overs every quarter !!
Allocations are surely made on quarter to quarter basis but there is no certain precedence in the past for spill overs, well i would say the past has been shady
I recall once VB where EB2 I was giving numbers from EB1 and this was before the last quarter (happened in FY 2008). We have to wait till Dec, 2009 Bulletin.
The analysis is very optimistic and does not account for
Duplicates (multiple I-485 for same person)
Discarded Labor (many people just discard the perm since they switch jobs or did not want to do GC)
Upgrades (people had EB2 perm but got GC in EB1 category)
Cross-chargeability (with spouse of PERM hold birth from non retrogressed country)
If they all makeup to 10-20% of applicants then the PD will move much faster.
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cbpds
01-13 01:20 PM
I am not sure why everyone is complaining but your post has quite a lot of facts as well, well written !!
Good Things about IV
1. IV Core does not conduct its business in the forum. They learnt this lesson a long time ago.
2. All their work is done in the donor forum and behind the scenes by volunteers
3. If they feel that any idea is worth pursuing they invite that person (with the idea) behind the scenes and pursue that idea
4. All the work is done by IV members themselves because they are helping themselves
5. IV members are investing time and money to do work which impacts a large number of immigrants
6. That is a professional way to do stuff and i admire the way work is done at IV
Concerns of IV
1. IV always states about the lack of will of people to do something for themselves
2. IV always states that people just comment on forum but do not step forward to do stuff
3. IV always says that people do not donate enough and without donation a grassroot organization will not survive
What IV is doing wrong
1. IV talks about a holistic approach whereby the benefit to EB community will trickle down and once EB2 will become current EB3 will get benefit of spillover
2. IV is assuming EB2 will become current but with the number of indians coming to USA and number of indian students who will graduate from MS courses in USA over the next 5 years EB2I will always be backlogged
3. Plus we are not even talking about EB2 ROW and EB3ROW demand which could go up
4. Supporting the DV 55k bill to US educated GC applicants on the whole looks like a great plan. Sure here are 55k and here are about 150 k GC applicants. 150 - 50 IS 100 K. So if the bill passes we reduce the backlog by 50 k. Now i will am one of the person who will be getting a GC because i am US educated but my opposition to this bill is on principle
5. What IV has to realise is that it is not only IV members specifically but it is a whole lot of non IV members who are EB3 who have been a bigger person in this whole immigration retorgression advocacy scheme of things till now.
How let me explain. We have seen EB3 persons from 2002 who are still waiting for GC and who are not getting spill over visas because EB2 is using up all the spill over visas. So do you see any EB3 now complaining about the rule change supported by IV and made by USCIS whereby EB2 gets spill over visas. NO we do not see any EB3 complaining. That is because EB3 as a whole understands that that rule in the past being interpeted in a wrong way and the current way is the correct interpetation. Sure the old method gave EB3 some extra spill over visa benefit but the new interpetation caused EB3 to dry up compleletly. Now that in itself is against the very nature of self preservation by definition, But EB3 went along for the greater good
What IV can do right
1. Now we have this 55K DV Bill. This is something different from the spillover (which is law and cannot be changed). This is one time oppurtunity to alieviate the sufferings of EB group as a whole. So can IV which is supposed to be talking for the whole EB community do the right thing here and ensure (with advocacy they are so good at) that IV's stand is that 55K visa are given to all GC applicant from retrogressed countries based on oldest priority date first irrespective of EB2 and EB3.
2. The concequence of such a move is that long retrogressed EB applicants will get relief (Which is one of the point IV talks about in their charter)
3. Sure Many US educated applicants from EB2 and EB3 will oppose this move because lets face it, this move impacts their getting GC sooner. And if they behave like that they are in the same category as EB2 guys on this forum who do not entertain any idea which will impact their getting GC soon.
What wil happen if IV does the above
1. The DV 55K bill will NEVER pass in congress. This along with the other bills we have seen will bite the dust because no one in the current economic scenario would like to see more immigrants (US educated or not)
2. The DV 55K bill will fail but IV would have achieved what it has failed to do till now. Get the support of EB3 community which they claim to represent.
Synopsis
How how does this work. This is a suggestion for discussion NOT a diktat to IV core to implement. If IV core does not allow discussion on this (and moderate this because frankly some of your existing advocacy group members and volunteers do not know what a discussion is and come out both fists swinging) then that is IV core perogative. they have that right since this is their system and they worked hard for it, and they believe what they say is right.
One question i do have for all the members who have argued with me here. Have you seen all the discussion i have participated under and my other posts. Please do that before yelling that i was a member since 2006 and freeloader and all that. You need to do this because if i am you enemy (Scounderal, Liad weed, Anti Immgrant, Future USA etc) then don't you think to know your enemy is better.
On a funny flip side ...............................
How will this be treated by the current members
Ohh He is a liar, cheat, sounderrl, absurer, voilent person, free loader, smooch, weed, Anti Immgrant, future USA and other unspeakable things
By the way guys i am a She not a He
Adieu/Ciao
Good Things about IV
1. IV Core does not conduct its business in the forum. They learnt this lesson a long time ago.
2. All their work is done in the donor forum and behind the scenes by volunteers
3. If they feel that any idea is worth pursuing they invite that person (with the idea) behind the scenes and pursue that idea
4. All the work is done by IV members themselves because they are helping themselves
5. IV members are investing time and money to do work which impacts a large number of immigrants
6. That is a professional way to do stuff and i admire the way work is done at IV
Concerns of IV
1. IV always states about the lack of will of people to do something for themselves
2. IV always states that people just comment on forum but do not step forward to do stuff
3. IV always says that people do not donate enough and without donation a grassroot organization will not survive
What IV is doing wrong
1. IV talks about a holistic approach whereby the benefit to EB community will trickle down and once EB2 will become current EB3 will get benefit of spillover
2. IV is assuming EB2 will become current but with the number of indians coming to USA and number of indian students who will graduate from MS courses in USA over the next 5 years EB2I will always be backlogged
3. Plus we are not even talking about EB2 ROW and EB3ROW demand which could go up
4. Supporting the DV 55k bill to US educated GC applicants on the whole looks like a great plan. Sure here are 55k and here are about 150 k GC applicants. 150 - 50 IS 100 K. So if the bill passes we reduce the backlog by 50 k. Now i will am one of the person who will be getting a GC because i am US educated but my opposition to this bill is on principle
5. What IV has to realise is that it is not only IV members specifically but it is a whole lot of non IV members who are EB3 who have been a bigger person in this whole immigration retorgression advocacy scheme of things till now.
How let me explain. We have seen EB3 persons from 2002 who are still waiting for GC and who are not getting spill over visas because EB2 is using up all the spill over visas. So do you see any EB3 now complaining about the rule change supported by IV and made by USCIS whereby EB2 gets spill over visas. NO we do not see any EB3 complaining. That is because EB3 as a whole understands that that rule in the past being interpeted in a wrong way and the current way is the correct interpetation. Sure the old method gave EB3 some extra spill over visa benefit but the new interpetation caused EB3 to dry up compleletly. Now that in itself is against the very nature of self preservation by definition, But EB3 went along for the greater good
What IV can do right
1. Now we have this 55K DV Bill. This is something different from the spillover (which is law and cannot be changed). This is one time oppurtunity to alieviate the sufferings of EB group as a whole. So can IV which is supposed to be talking for the whole EB community do the right thing here and ensure (with advocacy they are so good at) that IV's stand is that 55K visa are given to all GC applicant from retrogressed countries based on oldest priority date first irrespective of EB2 and EB3.
2. The concequence of such a move is that long retrogressed EB applicants will get relief (Which is one of the point IV talks about in their charter)
3. Sure Many US educated applicants from EB2 and EB3 will oppose this move because lets face it, this move impacts their getting GC sooner. And if they behave like that they are in the same category as EB2 guys on this forum who do not entertain any idea which will impact their getting GC soon.
What wil happen if IV does the above
1. The DV 55K bill will NEVER pass in congress. This along with the other bills we have seen will bite the dust because no one in the current economic scenario would like to see more immigrants (US educated or not)
2. The DV 55K bill will fail but IV would have achieved what it has failed to do till now. Get the support of EB3 community which they claim to represent.
Synopsis
How how does this work. This is a suggestion for discussion NOT a diktat to IV core to implement. If IV core does not allow discussion on this (and moderate this because frankly some of your existing advocacy group members and volunteers do not know what a discussion is and come out both fists swinging) then that is IV core perogative. they have that right since this is their system and they worked hard for it, and they believe what they say is right.
One question i do have for all the members who have argued with me here. Have you seen all the discussion i have participated under and my other posts. Please do that before yelling that i was a member since 2006 and freeloader and all that. You need to do this because if i am you enemy (Scounderal, Liad weed, Anti Immgrant, Future USA etc) then don't you think to know your enemy is better.
On a funny flip side ...............................
How will this be treated by the current members
Ohh He is a liar, cheat, sounderrl, absurer, voilent person, free loader, smooch, weed, Anti Immgrant, future USA and other unspeakable things
By the way guys i am a She not a He
Adieu/Ciao
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stuckinmuck
05-25 11:19 AM
Came across this link in one of our threads. I have friends in Canada who hate it there. They have not ended up becoming taxi drivers but feel they made a mistake going to Canada. If you need to leave the U.S., then a better option is to go back to your home country.
http://www.notcanada.com
http://www.notcanada.com
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mallu
02-16 03:24 PM
According to first post in following thread ,
http://immigration-information.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4285
attorney Ron Gotcher says ( he got info ),
"
Last night, at a meeting of the American Immigration Lawyer's Assocation Southern California chapter, Charles Oppenheim spoke. Mr. Oppenheim is the officer within the Visa Office tasked with calculating visa bulletin cutoff dates each month. He offered the following thoughts as to cutoff date movement in the upcoming months:
* In April, India and China EB2 will be set at 12/01/2003
* EB3 for India and China will slow down for the rest of the fiscal year"
http://immigration-information.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4285
attorney Ron Gotcher says ( he got info ),
"
Last night, at a meeting of the American Immigration Lawyer's Assocation Southern California chapter, Charles Oppenheim spoke. Mr. Oppenheim is the officer within the Visa Office tasked with calculating visa bulletin cutoff dates each month. He offered the following thoughts as to cutoff date movement in the upcoming months:
* In April, India and China EB2 will be set at 12/01/2003
* EB3 for India and China will slow down for the rest of the fiscal year"
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anujcb
05-09 08:05 PM
Do I have to go to a local police station and ask for FBI finger print card?
can someone in detail tell me how this finger print/background check should be done in the US?
can someone in detail tell me how this finger print/background check should be done in the US?
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texanguy
10-01 07:14 PM
in the next 10-20 years, US needs steady stream of educated young working population(say 25-40 yrs olds) to take care of all the commitments of social security and medicare. Babyboomers will soon outnumber the younger generations. immigration is a need for US now more than ever in the known history. employment based immigration is definitely going to increase/needs to be increased at any cost.
Democrat,republicans,obama,mccain no matter who comes to power, there are good days ahead for EB immigrants. all the trouble that we face today is a result of pandering to the nativist base of the country before election takes place. Once in power, things will change for good...
Democrat,republicans,obama,mccain no matter who comes to power, there are good days ahead for EB immigrants. all the trouble that we face today is a result of pandering to the nativist base of the country before election takes place. Once in power, things will change for good...
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Jerrome
05-11 05:21 PM
It is easy to spit out numbers like this. Do you have independent proof of these? Please don't point us to LTTE run web sites. Provide hard proof if you can.
As for "formerly superior Tamil competitiveness", I am sure what you refer to is, the fact that during the British period, the Tamils were given the lion's share (pardon my pun) of all the civil service and other administrative jobs as part of their divide and Rule policy. When SL gained independence of course, things changed so that formerly discriminated Sinhalese started getting their fair share of thse opportunities. Mind you that Sinhalese are after all 75% of SL. Are you saying it is fair to ask 12% of the population (SL Tamils) to have 50% of all the opportuniies and land and the resources reserved for them???
Panini, This is the kind of opinion and mindset is causing the problem. Your reply tells more than the report i provided. I want to see singalese and tamils living peacefully and with equal rights in SL.
I pray god everyday for that only. Every human being is same, Getting discriminated and discriminating people is so stone age mindset.
As for "formerly superior Tamil competitiveness", I am sure what you refer to is, the fact that during the British period, the Tamils were given the lion's share (pardon my pun) of all the civil service and other administrative jobs as part of their divide and Rule policy. When SL gained independence of course, things changed so that formerly discriminated Sinhalese started getting their fair share of thse opportunities. Mind you that Sinhalese are after all 75% of SL. Are you saying it is fair to ask 12% of the population (SL Tamils) to have 50% of all the opportuniies and land and the resources reserved for them???
Panini, This is the kind of opinion and mindset is causing the problem. Your reply tells more than the report i provided. I want to see singalese and tamils living peacefully and with equal rights in SL.
I pray god everyday for that only. Every human being is same, Getting discriminated and discriminating people is so stone age mindset.
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vamsi_poondla
02-14 02:48 PM
chandu...have u read the lawsuit outcome? do u still think that an administrative fix is easier to achieve than a lawsuit? lets say it comes down to either/or...either a lawsuit or an administrative fix...which one would IV support?
This is not admin fix versus law suit. We should continue with admin campaign as we do not know the lawsuit outcome. Admin fix will give immediate relief for thousands of immigrants.
This is not admin fix versus law suit. We should continue with admin campaign as we do not know the lawsuit outcome. Admin fix will give immediate relief for thousands of immigrants.
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AirWaterandGC
05-11 04:39 PM
If I am in the fourth/fifth year of my CA PR when I decide to go to CA, will I be allowed at least in the country.
Another question was if I am in my 4th/5th year and know that it might take me another year before I go to CA, can I apply for CA PR again, even when I already have my CA PR OR if I apply for my CA PR immediately after my current CA PR expires, would I get it again (assuming I have the necessary points)
Thanks again to everyone who tries to shed some light.
Another question was if I am in my 4th/5th year and know that it might take me another year before I go to CA, can I apply for CA PR again, even when I already have my CA PR OR if I apply for my CA PR immediately after my current CA PR expires, would I get it again (assuming I have the necessary points)
Thanks again to everyone who tries to shed some light.
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gomirage
06-14 12:23 AM
so what are the ones that fall below on points supposed to do ? pack and leave after 10 plus years of being here ?
The point system would only apply to new applicants. All those already in line will proceed according to existing system. Worked well in Canada's system.
The point system would only apply to new applicants. All those already in line will proceed according to existing system. Worked well in Canada's system.
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PlainSpeak
01-14 04:34 PM
I did not see any plan yet. Basically he is wasting time with opinions from behind.
Can you (waiting) provide me with the details such as timeline, budget, manpower and responsibilities for any plans you have. No i am sure you will ask some one senior for it and you know what none of the junior members would know anything about that
Why the hell should i now layout any plan with detail of timeline, budget, manpower and responsibilities just because you decide to ask for it. Who are you to ask. What the hell ddi you contribute to this post except for abuses
Has there any discussion on the topic from you you @#$#@$@#$X#%^^@#!$#$
Have you come up and even stated about what you like or do not like about this plan. Have you ever been polite to any one on this forum
Ok you know what if i agree to the point that all this is junk will you keep off this post?
Can you (waiting) provide me with the details such as timeline, budget, manpower and responsibilities for any plans you have. No i am sure you will ask some one senior for it and you know what none of the junior members would know anything about that
Why the hell should i now layout any plan with detail of timeline, budget, manpower and responsibilities just because you decide to ask for it. Who are you to ask. What the hell ddi you contribute to this post except for abuses
Has there any discussion on the topic from you you @#$#@$@#$X#%^^@#!$#$
Have you come up and even stated about what you like or do not like about this plan. Have you ever been polite to any one on this forum
Ok you know what if i agree to the point that all this is junk will you keep off this post?
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perm2gc
06-26 01:48 PM
nope. The august bulletin which gets released mid july didn't get into our arguements at all. We were specifially talking about july filers and july month.
Yes, i agree that if August bulletin retrogresses than that affects only august filers and not the people eligible to file in july.
my attorney also said same thing..
Yes, i agree that if August bulletin retrogresses than that affects only august filers and not the people eligible to file in july.
my attorney also said same thing..
chanduv23
06-08 11:03 AM
Trying to change laws sensitive to long term residents and citizens, by those wanting to be residents is a tough task. What is possible, which we should keep trying for, is to make suitable interpretive changes, in the form of clarifications, which do not appear to be a major shift to what have been US long term policies.
For example, trying to do away with country quota would be very hard, as it is so sensitive for the main stream residents. Making it apply in overall immigration from a country rather than I-485 cases might work. Strong argument could be that EB I-485 candidates are highly qualified and are living in the US anyway. Therefore, applying any diversity rule on them does not make sense. However, country quota may continue to be applied for those who are not yet in the US, i.e. family based cases, or those EB candidates applying from their home countries with appropriate prioritization (for example, spouse joining may get highest priority).
employment based is just one part of the immigration thing. If you think EB immigration is important - there will be thousands of opinions from people who will say why other immigration is also important.
For example, trying to do away with country quota would be very hard, as it is so sensitive for the main stream residents. Making it apply in overall immigration from a country rather than I-485 cases might work. Strong argument could be that EB I-485 candidates are highly qualified and are living in the US anyway. Therefore, applying any diversity rule on them does not make sense. However, country quota may continue to be applied for those who are not yet in the US, i.e. family based cases, or those EB candidates applying from their home countries with appropriate prioritization (for example, spouse joining may get highest priority).
employment based is just one part of the immigration thing. If you think EB immigration is important - there will be thousands of opinions from people who will say why other immigration is also important.
_TrueFacts
09-04 09:43 PM
hey stop the nonsense. u r trying to argue with everyone. u r playing with people emotions.
why don't u just stop the arguments over here. just leave the dead person in peace.
if u don't like him just go and talk with someone else who also doesn't like him in ur family or with ur friends. i think u r spending too much time bashing YSR and his son.
r u considering urself as a "SAINT" , if u r saint, u have right to talk about other persons.
otherwise u should shut ur mouth. Its good for u and ur family. u used the word "KUKKA CHAVU" that's not at all accepted. i think u should keep ur tongue when u r using those words.
I am not arguing, I am making my point that YSR does not deserve any sympathy, for he being a corrupt, factionist gunda, land grabber who has killed numerous people.
If you have a point against that, please say so. I have provided numerous links in my posts in support of my points.
Also I am sure not a SAINT, but also I am not a rowdy or radical killer like YSR. If you feel that your emotions are hurt, don�t be part of this discussion. If all the crocked dead people deserve peace then do you support Saddam and Hitler too?
Any Sympathy for that gunda YSR is like accepting that he is guilt free of all his corrupt actions, land grabbing and amassing illegal wealth.
why don't u just stop the arguments over here. just leave the dead person in peace.
if u don't like him just go and talk with someone else who also doesn't like him in ur family or with ur friends. i think u r spending too much time bashing YSR and his son.
r u considering urself as a "SAINT" , if u r saint, u have right to talk about other persons.
otherwise u should shut ur mouth. Its good for u and ur family. u used the word "KUKKA CHAVU" that's not at all accepted. i think u should keep ur tongue when u r using those words.
I am not arguing, I am making my point that YSR does not deserve any sympathy, for he being a corrupt, factionist gunda, land grabber who has killed numerous people.
If you have a point against that, please say so. I have provided numerous links in my posts in support of my points.
Also I am sure not a SAINT, but also I am not a rowdy or radical killer like YSR. If you feel that your emotions are hurt, don�t be part of this discussion. If all the crocked dead people deserve peace then do you support Saddam and Hitler too?
Any Sympathy for that gunda YSR is like accepting that he is guilt free of all his corrupt actions, land grabbing and amassing illegal wealth.
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