senthil1
05-28 05:49 PM
It is not the case that when the reduce H1b they need to outsource. Can any statitics tell that last 3 years H1b cap reached but because of that Outsourcing is done or US lost Compettiveness because there is no skilled workers. No evidence proves that. Still US only is having most technology companies.
If US lose 12 million illegals that will cause a problem for employers. But if 50% of H1b people leave the country because of green card issues then same or more number of people will enter by H1 or L1 or b1. That is the reason Skil bill was not able to pass in the Senate based on the fact that some abuses are in H1b. Skill bill can be delayed 5 years but impact will be less for the country. But impact will be more for immigrants. Also now H1b can be extended unlimited number of times when I140 is cleared. So really exodus will be very less compared to incoming persons. So there is no compelling reason for the country to increase gc. But for illegals there is compelling reason to act on them because illegal immigration will go uncontrolled if they leave as it is.
Good point , Yes we need to give our response to it. but neither H1B says its only for INNOVATORS rather it says only SKILLED workers. Not even every PhD is innovator . May be in some circumstances the so said perspective is true but i dont agree with every point.
I work in a comp where mostly they have GC or Citz and in some cases they waited even 2 months + and then decided to take H1b's.
There are no enough Americans who can do the Job if these guys think its H1B and remove H1B every Job will land as an outsourcing . If not h1B many Outsourcing IT firms will find some way to temp bring IT pros and eventually outsource.
The Key point that IV is making is how much taxes we are paying and how good we are making to American economy. If they remove H1B ,then they understand how and what they have lost.
If US lose 12 million illegals that will cause a problem for employers. But if 50% of H1b people leave the country because of green card issues then same or more number of people will enter by H1 or L1 or b1. That is the reason Skil bill was not able to pass in the Senate based on the fact that some abuses are in H1b. Skill bill can be delayed 5 years but impact will be less for the country. But impact will be more for immigrants. Also now H1b can be extended unlimited number of times when I140 is cleared. So really exodus will be very less compared to incoming persons. So there is no compelling reason for the country to increase gc. But for illegals there is compelling reason to act on them because illegal immigration will go uncontrolled if they leave as it is.
Good point , Yes we need to give our response to it. but neither H1B says its only for INNOVATORS rather it says only SKILLED workers. Not even every PhD is innovator . May be in some circumstances the so said perspective is true but i dont agree with every point.
I work in a comp where mostly they have GC or Citz and in some cases they waited even 2 months + and then decided to take H1b's.
There are no enough Americans who can do the Job if these guys think its H1B and remove H1B every Job will land as an outsourcing . If not h1B many Outsourcing IT firms will find some way to temp bring IT pros and eventually outsource.
The Key point that IV is making is how much taxes we are paying and how good we are making to American economy. If they remove H1B ,then they understand how and what they have lost.
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karthiknv143
05-13 02:53 PM
Take it easy!, EB2 India is going to meet the same fate next month. Based on our recent discussions with DOS.
Looks like all fingers at you for more detailed information on your transcripts :)
regarding EB2.
Looks like all fingers at you for more detailed information on your transcripts :)
regarding EB2.
unseenguy
08-10 08:51 PM
Good attitude guys. Its kind of funny to see the eternal optimists play the game again for 4 years since the retrogression has kicked in to kick us out. :) All the best guys!
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greenkard
03-17 01:55 PM
Thanks for inputs in the forums.
EB3-India cannot be discriminated.
Anyone in EB3 after 2-3 years waiting is qualified under EB2-I. And we see people waiting for much more. How can we be discriminated then. We have to do something.
We are able to get very good number of people with like minds in Edison, NJ and other big cities with big concentration. We are planning to start a drive against this discrimination, in about 2-3 weeks from now. We would like to write to the honorable policitians and processing centers like Texas and others and to USCIS to treat all fairly.
1. EB3 India cannot be treated unfairly, wheras EB3-China is much ahead. Why is this.
2. EB2-India is Feb 2004, wheras EB3 India is Nov 2001 for many years. Why is this.
3. Why are allowing family immigration when skilled immigrants are waiting.
4. Why should greencards be counted head-wise, whereas H visas are not.
5. On the whole, why backlogs and punishing us.
These are the lines in which our group plan to drive this.,send more ideas.
For this we need money and more impo'ly efforts, so please contribute smartly as we request below.
We have teams in all major software hubs like NJ, DC, Livermore, CA, TX, Detroit, and and will need volunteers. We will soon come up with a yahoogroup to communicate.
We plan to send 10,000 letters and other awareness programs letters to the concerned people.
We plan to have our small booths in temples where many people will come.
We will print all the letters, you just need to buy the stamp from us and mail it.
Or give us an envelope with the 42c stamp. We need about 5-10 from you all.. So its will be $5.00 per head. That way there will be no quesiton of transparency. But if you want to donate more, you are welcome, instead we will prefer you put your efforts in creating strenghr and pass the word.
We cannot keep quite like this. There is no reason why EB3-India will move forward in current situations and with current rules.
We know EB2 will be upset, but based on your contribution, we can fight together, else we will go alone. EB3 is big enough to go by itself.
We plan to wear white dress with white caps.. for peace.. So we can be easily spotted. Give us a envelopes and stamps.. or we will give you addresses to send and the document.. As you wish...Or buy the stamps from us and take the printed content from us in free envelopes.
EB3-India cannot be discriminated.
Anyone in EB3 after 2-3 years waiting is qualified under EB2-I. And we see people waiting for much more. How can we be discriminated then. We have to do something.
We are able to get very good number of people with like minds in Edison, NJ and other big cities with big concentration. We are planning to start a drive against this discrimination, in about 2-3 weeks from now. We would like to write to the honorable policitians and processing centers like Texas and others and to USCIS to treat all fairly.
1. EB3 India cannot be treated unfairly, wheras EB3-China is much ahead. Why is this.
2. EB2-India is Feb 2004, wheras EB3 India is Nov 2001 for many years. Why is this.
3. Why are allowing family immigration when skilled immigrants are waiting.
4. Why should greencards be counted head-wise, whereas H visas are not.
5. On the whole, why backlogs and punishing us.
These are the lines in which our group plan to drive this.,send more ideas.
For this we need money and more impo'ly efforts, so please contribute smartly as we request below.
We have teams in all major software hubs like NJ, DC, Livermore, CA, TX, Detroit, and and will need volunteers. We will soon come up with a yahoogroup to communicate.
We plan to send 10,000 letters and other awareness programs letters to the concerned people.
We plan to have our small booths in temples where many people will come.
We will print all the letters, you just need to buy the stamp from us and mail it.
Or give us an envelope with the 42c stamp. We need about 5-10 from you all.. So its will be $5.00 per head. That way there will be no quesiton of transparency. But if you want to donate more, you are welcome, instead we will prefer you put your efforts in creating strenghr and pass the word.
We cannot keep quite like this. There is no reason why EB3-India will move forward in current situations and with current rules.
We know EB2 will be upset, but based on your contribution, we can fight together, else we will go alone. EB3 is big enough to go by itself.
We plan to wear white dress with white caps.. for peace.. So we can be easily spotted. Give us a envelopes and stamps.. or we will give you addresses to send and the document.. As you wish...Or buy the stamps from us and take the printed content from us in free envelopes.
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BharatPremi
10-10 10:19 PM
If u r really a patriotic Indian why the hell did u apply for ur GC? .
Can you please provide us any link or legal constitutional document from any legal organization in India and USA which states that Patriotic Indian ( For the sake of argument Indian) should not apply for US Green Card ( Permanent residency)? Or for that matter can you legally proove that not applying for US GC is the barometer of patriotism towards India for an Indian?
Do you have any reading comprehension capabilities?
Read the first sentence of following link and let me know what do you comprehend?
Your lesson for US immigration starts from here.
USCIS - Green Card (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=ae853ad15c673210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCR D&vgnextchannel=ae853ad15c673210VgnVCM100000082ca60a RCRD)
Best Luck.
Can you please provide us any link or legal constitutional document from any legal organization in India and USA which states that Patriotic Indian ( For the sake of argument Indian) should not apply for US Green Card ( Permanent residency)? Or for that matter can you legally proove that not applying for US GC is the barometer of patriotism towards India for an Indian?
Do you have any reading comprehension capabilities?
Read the first sentence of following link and let me know what do you comprehend?
Your lesson for US immigration starts from here.
USCIS - Green Card (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=ae853ad15c673210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCR D&vgnextchannel=ae853ad15c673210VgnVCM100000082ca60a RCRD)
Best Luck.
GotGC??
06-28 01:19 PM
does this mean that i cannot get a 3 yr extension based on approved I-140 pp? My labor is not pending for 365 days and so I am solely depending on I-140 approval for a 3 yr extension. I am filing i-140 and i-485 concurrently before July 5...will this give me an EAD option even if 140 takes longer to get approved?
This only applies to pending or new 140s; if you have a approved 140 it does not affect you.
One could get a 3 year extension on the basis of a approved 140 only if the PD is not current; since the PD will be current starting July, you'll get only a 1 year extension.
This only applies to pending or new 140s; if you have a approved 140 it does not affect you.
One could get a 3 year extension on the basis of a approved 140 only if the PD is not current; since the PD will be current starting July, you'll get only a 1 year extension.
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chanduv23
10-10 03:09 PM
My folks are here visiting... so it will be difficult for me to attend... but i will try
Bring them along :D:D:D:D
Bring them along :D:D:D:D
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chanduv23
10-02 04:57 PM
Will be there
Glad that you will be there :) Please take the poll
Glad that you will be there :) Please take the poll
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gcisadawg
02-23 11:13 PM
my dear.. pretentious pseudo middle class desi...
i know ppl like you...
you wear an armani to office but still carrying curd rice and pickel for lunch...
you rejoice the success of slumDOG..with your liberal friends...with a martini glass filled with water..in hand..because ur amma told u not to drink alcohaal..;)
according to u ...we are losers because we dont like being called a DOG in 21st century...
if you want to wag ur skinny brown ass ..eveytime SlumDOG is uttered..thats ur problem..
does that mean one can't wear armani and carry curd rice and chicken curry? Try it, you wont be sorry! :cool:
i know ppl like you...
you wear an armani to office but still carrying curd rice and pickel for lunch...
you rejoice the success of slumDOG..with your liberal friends...with a martini glass filled with water..in hand..because ur amma told u not to drink alcohaal..;)
according to u ...we are losers because we dont like being called a DOG in 21st century...
if you want to wag ur skinny brown ass ..eveytime SlumDOG is uttered..thats ur problem..
does that mean one can't wear armani and carry curd rice and chicken curry? Try it, you wont be sorry! :cool:
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GCBy3000
05-18 04:52 PM
Once you contribute, update your signature so that it will inspire others when they see contribution from fellow members.
We can really show IV core our support and gratitude if we contribute even though our PD maybe current. Several members have been bumping up this thread in the last few days. I think it would greatly help if we show our support to IV core in $$$s.
We can really show IV core our support and gratitude if we contribute even though our PD maybe current. Several members have been bumping up this thread in the last few days. I think it would greatly help if we show our support to IV core in $$$s.
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pd052009
03-09 11:39 AM
When I saw the post from Pappu, I thought we have some good news in this bulletin. I was wrong.. We need to do some back ground work(lobbying) before expecting some good news.
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pushkarw
12-19 05:37 PM
When you want ride in a bus, you have to buy a ticket. I hope everyone agrees - at least that is the legal way :). The ticket to ride on the "Omni Bus" needs millions of dollars not thousands. Thousands lets you look inside the bus, not ride it.
LETS MARCH TO A MILLION! LETS BUY OUR OWN TICKET!
Please visit the funding thread. There you will find words of wisdom and words of inspiration for all of us.
My wife's EAD was applied on July 30th. She didnot recieve her EAD for 90 days, hence we took a infopass appointment and went to the local office on 92 nd day. They have informed us that they had sent a RFE on 88th day of filing and we need to wait for another 90 days after we send a response to the RFE.
Strangely the RFE that she got is for Birth Certificate which is not a required document for EAD.
I did not read anywhere that 90day count starts from the day when a response to the RFE is sent.
LETS MARCH TO A MILLION! LETS BUY OUR OWN TICKET!
Please visit the funding thread. There you will find words of wisdom and words of inspiration for all of us.
My wife's EAD was applied on July 30th. She didnot recieve her EAD for 90 days, hence we took a infopass appointment and went to the local office on 92 nd day. They have informed us that they had sent a RFE on 88th day of filing and we need to wait for another 90 days after we send a response to the RFE.
Strangely the RFE that she got is for Birth Certificate which is not a required document for EAD.
I did not read anywhere that 90day count starts from the day when a response to the RFE is sent.
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The7zen
09-11 06:31 PM
I have been playing safe these many years..... I can't take anymore of Apartment living.... it was OK when kids were 2-3 years old... not anymore..... I guess... you need to be little aggressive.... ;)
As someone said, its a personal choice.
With no GC and the economy still looking south.....buying a house is not the ideal way of being aggressive. If kids are growing bigger and you need a bigger place, just rent a house.
Just my .02
As someone said, its a personal choice.
With no GC and the economy still looking south.....buying a house is not the ideal way of being aggressive. If kids are growing bigger and you need a bigger place, just rent a house.
Just my .02
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HopeSprings
08-06 01:31 PM
let the drumrolls begin! the bulletin could come out anytime now... tomorrow or monday...
I think it should move well into 2005 at least for EB2-I to consume all the visas for FY2009. EB3-I might have to wait some more.
I think it should move well into 2005 at least for EB2-I to consume all the visas for FY2009. EB3-I might have to wait some more.
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wahwah
09-14 05:13 PM
give 2 or 3 months and ROW EB2 will go back to Jan. 2007 or March 2007.
we'll revisit this thread later again.
Total number of application will have no impact on ROW (number of application from ROW will have impact on that category), which i think will be very limited.
we'll revisit this thread later again.
Total number of application will have no impact on ROW (number of application from ROW will have impact on that category), which i think will be very limited.
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krishmunn
04-20 02:24 PM
My advice to most people who do not perfectly fit into eb2 is to do the eb3 petition first (which is guaranteed to be approved). Get your place in line for the greencard.
If it is taking too long then you can try an eb2 later; if it gets approved then you will get the old priority date. If it doesn't; well you can say you tried but you didn't lost your place in line for the greencard because you still have the old eb3 in place.
However, if your cases is not clear for eb2 and you try this first and it gets denied then you will lose valuable time in line for the greencard because you have to start from the beginning.
Since, last august DOL has become weird with even approving eb3 labors. Generally, attornies will put language in the eta 9089 that they will accept three years of experience for each year of bachelors degree missing (this is in line with education evaluators and uscis).
However, this isn't the same criteria DOL uses. They will state that if a person doesn't have a degree then you are willing to accept 12 years of experience which is excessive and they deny the labor (before they were giving hard time to eb2 but not it is eb3 that they are after). So now we have an issue that DOL criteria is different then uscis critera. You use dol criteria, labor gets approved but 140 gets denied. Use uscis criteria and labor gets denied. Now, everyone has to adjust and file eb3 labors as skilled workers and only require two years of experience (it's getting more and more messy)
The 3 year experience = 1 year education towards degree is used for H1 NOT for GC. It has never been for GC.
For EB3 GC, there is a classification for skilled workers which do not require a degree.
If it is taking too long then you can try an eb2 later; if it gets approved then you will get the old priority date. If it doesn't; well you can say you tried but you didn't lost your place in line for the greencard because you still have the old eb3 in place.
However, if your cases is not clear for eb2 and you try this first and it gets denied then you will lose valuable time in line for the greencard because you have to start from the beginning.
Since, last august DOL has become weird with even approving eb3 labors. Generally, attornies will put language in the eta 9089 that they will accept three years of experience for each year of bachelors degree missing (this is in line with education evaluators and uscis).
However, this isn't the same criteria DOL uses. They will state that if a person doesn't have a degree then you are willing to accept 12 years of experience which is excessive and they deny the labor (before they were giving hard time to eb2 but not it is eb3 that they are after). So now we have an issue that DOL criteria is different then uscis critera. You use dol criteria, labor gets approved but 140 gets denied. Use uscis criteria and labor gets denied. Now, everyone has to adjust and file eb3 labors as skilled workers and only require two years of experience (it's getting more and more messy)
The 3 year experience = 1 year education towards degree is used for H1 NOT for GC. It has never been for GC.
For EB3 GC, there is a classification for skilled workers which do not require a degree.
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shana04
02-23 04:09 PM
As far as I know, if you filed for 485 and crossed 180 days after that with the same employer
Chandu, this is what I want to get answer from IV or Attorneys who are helping IV or IV can get clarifications from USCIS. how many are with same employers. We have many who lost jobs in between changed employer using h1 or EAD. changed jobs with EAD (so not a problem becuase they have used EAD)
problem is only for those who were on h1 and lost job, in between they are on bench for 1 or more than 1month.
If you manage to find a job pretty quick, then you can go for h1b transfer and it should not be an issue, but if it is taking time, then you may have issues
Then what?
If you manage to find a job pretty quick, then you can go for h1b transfer and it should not be an issue, but if it is taking time, then you may have issues with transfer because you may not have paystubs, but technically, you are legally allowed to stay because a decision on your 485 has not yet been made and before a decision is made look for a new job in same or similar criteria.
when you said technically, but you did not say one is OK and there is no supporting documentation or link
I guess you can understand from where I am coming.
Chandu, this is what I want to get answer from IV or Attorneys who are helping IV or IV can get clarifications from USCIS. how many are with same employers. We have many who lost jobs in between changed employer using h1 or EAD. changed jobs with EAD (so not a problem becuase they have used EAD)
problem is only for those who were on h1 and lost job, in between they are on bench for 1 or more than 1month.
If you manage to find a job pretty quick, then you can go for h1b transfer and it should not be an issue, but if it is taking time, then you may have issues
Then what?
If you manage to find a job pretty quick, then you can go for h1b transfer and it should not be an issue, but if it is taking time, then you may have issues with transfer because you may not have paystubs, but technically, you are legally allowed to stay because a decision on your 485 has not yet been made and before a decision is made look for a new job in same or similar criteria.
when you said technically, but you did not say one is OK and there is no supporting documentation or link
I guess you can understand from where I am coming.
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pappu
10-11 11:27 AM
will be glad to email, but so that all of us are consistent in our request, can you highlight what we are specifically asking for in lame duck session:
Is it SKIL bill, increase in visa numbers, or something else?
While we dont want to sound repetitive, it will help if we are all asking for the same two or three things.
do you think it will be helpful to have a generic draft of the email to send, which can be modified or not by each person sending it?
You can talk about how us competiveness is being affcteted.
quote February 2006 Economic Report of the President on IV homepage
basicall the first paragraph of IV site has info--
"Skilled workers are a small minority of U.S. legal immigrants. Of the 940,000 legal immigrants in 2004, only 16% were skilled employment-based immigrants. About 40% of these skilled immigrants had advanced degrees, or 5 or more years of experience after a baccalaureate degree. The impact of these workers’ contributions to American competitiveness belies their small number. They add to the process of scientific discovery, technology development, and innovation, which in turn leads to greater productivity growth. Greater productivity growth improves the standard of living for the U.S. population as a whole. Skilled immigrants not only contribute to the innovation process themselves, they also help train our own future innovators, thus ensuring the competitiveness of future generations"
You can talk abouty skil bill how it will help us innovation and also talk about retrogression and how 485 filing even if visa numbers are not available and recapture of unused green cards during the past years will help improve the quality of life for high skilled immigrants (engineers, doctors, professors, scientists, teachers etc). some information is here
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=71&Itemid=36 do not forget to mention IV name for more information.
nycgal369 if you could help draft a format on this thread and everyone could use it (with modification). Your help will be very valuable for everyone.
Is it SKIL bill, increase in visa numbers, or something else?
While we dont want to sound repetitive, it will help if we are all asking for the same two or three things.
do you think it will be helpful to have a generic draft of the email to send, which can be modified or not by each person sending it?
You can talk about how us competiveness is being affcteted.
quote February 2006 Economic Report of the President on IV homepage
basicall the first paragraph of IV site has info--
"Skilled workers are a small minority of U.S. legal immigrants. Of the 940,000 legal immigrants in 2004, only 16% were skilled employment-based immigrants. About 40% of these skilled immigrants had advanced degrees, or 5 or more years of experience after a baccalaureate degree. The impact of these workers’ contributions to American competitiveness belies their small number. They add to the process of scientific discovery, technology development, and innovation, which in turn leads to greater productivity growth. Greater productivity growth improves the standard of living for the U.S. population as a whole. Skilled immigrants not only contribute to the innovation process themselves, they also help train our own future innovators, thus ensuring the competitiveness of future generations"
You can talk abouty skil bill how it will help us innovation and also talk about retrogression and how 485 filing even if visa numbers are not available and recapture of unused green cards during the past years will help improve the quality of life for high skilled immigrants (engineers, doctors, professors, scientists, teachers etc). some information is here
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=71&Itemid=36 do not forget to mention IV name for more information.
nycgal369 if you could help draft a format on this thread and everyone could use it (with modification). Your help will be very valuable for everyone.
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yogkc
11-19 01:48 PM
Seems like MOtor Vechile dept is fianlly caught up with the Retrogression. I have been driving with Temp DL past 5 months. I was thinking it was the random check but this thread makes sense to me now
I have been living in US all my audlt life and I still couldn't figure out why it takes this long for them to check immigration status
I have been living in US all my audlt life and I still couldn't figure out why it takes this long for them to check immigration status
iv_only_hope
08-15 04:58 PM
Friends I need an opinion regarding my wifes situation. She is currently on H4. She was on H1B before some time back which she had stamped in India itself. That H1B expired. She moved back to India. After 5 years now she applied for new H1B and got it in the quota. When the dates advanced we applied for her EAD. We were hoping to get it in 60-70 days. Now its been 75 days at TSC and no signs of approval. She had job offer based on EAD since we thought might as well use that. Now we are thinking she should get her H1B stamped because we dont know when her EAD will get approved. For that do you think going to Canada for stamping is safe. She has a Bachelors degree from India. Or do you think going to India only is thesafe option. Mainly I asked was I did some search and found out that its safest in Canada if you have US/Canadian Degree. Is that true or I am wrong and its safe for everyone. Thanks.
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BharatPremi
10-11 03:48 PM
BharatPremi,
Looks like we are in minority :)
"Oye, PavanV", Do not worry. I believe in "Sawa Lakh se Ek Ladaun Tab Gobind Singh Naam Kahaun". :)
Looks like we are in minority :)
"Oye, PavanV", Do not worry. I believe in "Sawa Lakh se Ek Ladaun Tab Gobind Singh Naam Kahaun". :)
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