hopefulgc
05-19 10:10 AM
This idea has some serious chances of getting through, if pursued. The biggest thing in its favor is the validation in the form of existing H1B quota for US educated Post grads.
It will find extensive support from universities/academia for obvious reasons.
Main opposition to this issue would be from non-us educated people who feel that they would be left out. Unfortunately, they will be overlooking the critical side effect that this provision would relieve pressure on current EB numbers.
wrong.
Each MS student invests atleast 20k for his program [average]. He/She doesnot get any benefit from taxes. However, its the university benefits from foreign students. If you take CS/EE/science program atleast 50% of students would be foreigners [avg].
One of the main reasons why a Master's quota of 20k was added was to retain the "US educated" talent. I suppose we could argue on similar terms for GC quota for Masters students.
It will find extensive support from universities/academia for obvious reasons.
Main opposition to this issue would be from non-us educated people who feel that they would be left out. Unfortunately, they will be overlooking the critical side effect that this provision would relieve pressure on current EB numbers.
wrong.
Each MS student invests atleast 20k for his program [average]. He/She doesnot get any benefit from taxes. However, its the university benefits from foreign students. If you take CS/EE/science program atleast 50% of students would be foreigners [avg].
One of the main reasons why a Master's quota of 20k was added was to retain the "US educated" talent. I suppose we could argue on similar terms for GC quota for Masters students.
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anilsal
10-11 04:38 PM
either missed BEC by luck (pre-PERM folks) or used substitute labor. They all have GCs.
And there are people like me, still waiting waiting waiting.
It is not fair on people whose labor went into BEC and others filed PERM, got approved faster - have EADs/FP.
Nothing is fair.
And there are people like me, still waiting waiting waiting.
It is not fair on people whose labor went into BEC and others filed PERM, got approved faster - have EADs/FP.
Nothing is fair.
new_gc
01-28 02:16 PM
letters sent both from me and spouse to WH and Iv.....convinced friends to do the same...15 of them(includin their spouses)
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coolmanasip
05-29 05:23 PM
It is unbelievable how much emphasis is being given to the family based immigration when this bill strives to eliminate their backlog!!! ......and amazingly enough there are very few voices (IV being one) that are really crying about the injustice to the employment based GC and H1 programs..........we have to work on getting through to mainstream media guys......its unbelievable that we are not even on the board as far as close door immigration deal negotiations are concerned.........
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seratbabu
02-18 11:50 PM
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question 1) did both you and your spouse's I485 cases receive the "pending at the location it was transfered to"?
question 2) did both you and your spouses I485 cases receive RFE?
question 3) did both you and your spouses case have an LUD after RFE?
have you guys received the RFE notices and if yes, what is USCIS asking
[/QUOTE]
My 485 had LUDs on 02/10, 02/13, 02/17 and 02/18. My wife's 485 had LUDs on 02/10, 02/13, 02/17. My wife's 485 got a RFE on 02/13 - but still waiting for the actual RFE for the details.
My 485 Current Status: This case is now pending at the office to which it was transferred.
My Wife's 485 Current Status: Request for Additional Evidence Sent
Does it come to me or to my attorney?
Thanks..
question 1) did both you and your spouse's I485 cases receive the "pending at the location it was transfered to"?
question 2) did both you and your spouses I485 cases receive RFE?
question 3) did both you and your spouses case have an LUD after RFE?
have you guys received the RFE notices and if yes, what is USCIS asking
[/QUOTE]
My 485 had LUDs on 02/10, 02/13, 02/17 and 02/18. My wife's 485 had LUDs on 02/10, 02/13, 02/17. My wife's 485 got a RFE on 02/13 - but still waiting for the actual RFE for the details.
My 485 Current Status: This case is now pending at the office to which it was transferred.
My Wife's 485 Current Status: Request for Additional Evidence Sent
Does it come to me or to my attorney?
Thanks..
coolmanasip
05-29 05:23 PM
It is unbelievable how much emphasis is being given to the family based immigration when this bill strives to eliminate their backlog!!! ......and amazingly enough there are very few voices (IV being one) that are really crying about the injustice to the employment based GC and H1 programs..........we have to work on getting through to mainstream media guys......its unbelievable that we are not even on the board as far as close door immigration deal negotiations are concerned.........
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jonty_11
07-25 02:07 PM
What do you say about your problem when you take InfoPass. You can't take an appointment to just ask what is happening to your case, unless several months have passed after all sorts of dates.
I dont belive it when ppl take silly suggestions seriously. We should know better having been in this mess for years now...
I would like to sum it up again
USCIS is a blackbox and you will never know when you get ur GC until u get it.
I dont belive it when ppl take silly suggestions seriously. We should know better having been in this mess for years now...
I would like to sum it up again
USCIS is a blackbox and you will never know when you get ur GC until u get it.
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CraigSum
07-08 11:30 AM
http://digg.com/politics/July_Green_Card_Fiasco_Not_fault_of_DOS_as_per_Con doleeza_Rice_on_CNBC
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sanbaj
08-01 10:39 AM
Hi Sanbaj,
You are very helpful and thanks once again for sharing your experiences and knowlege on interfiling.
Regards
GC_wait2002
Thanks for your appreciation. Glad that I could help.
You are very helpful and thanks once again for sharing your experiences and knowlege on interfiling.
Regards
GC_wait2002
Thanks for your appreciation. Glad that I could help.
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ragz4u
04-02 08:54 AM
Guys, we need much more support. Please talk to your friends/colleagues anyone else you know!
Thanks
Thanks
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red200
10-26 11:01 PM
there should not be a issue
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jitnair
08-19 11:37 AM
how does one know NC is cleared? do you see an update?
No. Mine was cleared on July 22nd,08 - But did not see any LUDs.
If you had two different A#s (140 and 485) you will see an LUD on 140 when they reconcile the two.
EB2, Sep-04, NSC
No. Mine was cleared on July 22nd,08 - But did not see any LUDs.
If you had two different A#s (140 and 485) you will see an LUD on 140 when they reconcile the two.
EB2, Sep-04, NSC
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immigrant2007
07-16 12:57 PM
Good to know you oppose illegal immigration that is actually destroying American life. My solution to the illegal immigration was same and given months back on this forum. Punish employers harshly with fines (50K per incident) plus 5 years of jail time and put the burden of finding out if person is legal ON the employer. Soon institutions like Equifax/Experian/TransUnion will pop up instead of the current one -EVerify.
You completely missed the point of immigration and outsourcing. They have NOTHING to do with eachother. Even if they paid me in dollars and gave me a cushy job and paid for every of my expense to run a outsourced part of a company in my home country, I will not go because it's not the money that matters, it the quality of life! I don't want to be driving 1 hour to get 5 miles ahead. I don't want to bribe a peon to get my own birth certificate. I don't want people creating a welcome mat for me on the sidewalk - made not out of rose petals but chewed pan spit.
I like some of your ideas but won't indudge in any dialogue with you unless you update your profile. the idea of punishing employers is not mine. I read it somewhere in one of the posts on this very site, maybe yours only
You completely missed the point of immigration and outsourcing. They have NOTHING to do with eachother. Even if they paid me in dollars and gave me a cushy job and paid for every of my expense to run a outsourced part of a company in my home country, I will not go because it's not the money that matters, it the quality of life! I don't want to be driving 1 hour to get 5 miles ahead. I don't want to bribe a peon to get my own birth certificate. I don't want people creating a welcome mat for me on the sidewalk - made not out of rose petals but chewed pan spit.
I like some of your ideas but won't indudge in any dialogue with you unless you update your profile. the idea of punishing employers is not mine. I read it somewhere in one of the posts on this very site, maybe yours only
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realizeit
02-11 11:53 PM
Mr MPADAPA,
I know you have spent some time analyzing the whole stuff and came with your conclusions. At the end, if someone says that the crux of your conclusions are wrong, for an emotional person, it would be tough to take. A rational person would take it lightly and think before responding. In your immediate previous reply, you just cherry picked a quote from my previous reply and put that as my interpretation. Please do not put words into my mouth. My reply has been pasted below in its entirety.
You have campared the paragraph with NumbersUSA argument etc. Dear friend, my argument was exactly opposite to that paragraph. I think, you didn't get the meaning of the paragraph itself. My paragraph contained phrases like "If your argument is correct..", ". If the unused can be given to ..". etc, which makes the argument exactly opposite to what mentioned there. So, that means I believe exactly opposite to those arguments.
I acknowledge that you have every right to interpret the law in whichever way you want. My point is that, it really doesn't matter to all of the folks who applied in EB2 and waiting for GC. The thing that really matters is the way in which USCIS acts this year. They can act in whatever way they want. This year, if they say, there won't be any family visa wastage, we will get nothing. Contrary to that, if they see that by the end of the year there is a chance for 15K family vis wastage, they may allocate that to employment category.
To all EB2 folks out there: No need to really feel bad or happy about the analysis of Mr. MPADAPA.
My general advice to anyone who put forward an argument for propaganda and a campaign is: Don't massage the facts, don't twist the facts, don't over analyze, don't under analyze, Also don't say that your interpretation is the final verdict. Because, even if we can analyze all the immigration related laws in the whole Federal register, we may not be able to come to a final conclusion....!! Why? Because you don't have a clue what is in the field manual and internal memos of the USCIS and you don't know how they procedurely allocate spill over etc on each year. As long as USCIS and DOS can use the terms "In Anticipation..", "As per our expectations..", no one will be able to hold them accountable for the visa wastage.
MPADAPA..you may continue your argument/discussions, if you think this is a moot point. But I don't believe so.
If you can prove your initial basic argument with complete facts and details, I will openly declare, I am wrong! Your original argument was "Since the family category used up all Visa numbers in 2008, in 2009 EB2 cannot expect any spill over from Family category and hence we need to expect slow movement....".
Instead of proving the above, you may cherry pick my statements and continue to beat about the bush. I am giving up here my friend.
Good luck :)
realizeit, you just didn't get the unused visa calculation.
By the way your interpretation quoted below is exactly what numbersUSA used to claim that there is no visa available for recapture. And they used that argument to shoot down our recapture bill.
Knowing that PD's aren't going to move forward drastically, we need to start working towards some thing drastic like a bill/amendment. Or we can sit and mull over it and wait until the second week of Aug (when Sep bulletin is announced) to show our frustration.
My complete earlier reply
Still I disagree my friend. I know, law is the law! What I am disagreeing is your interpretation and conclusion.
In reality, towards the end of the Fiscal year, if USCIS/State Dept finds that visas will go unused in one category, they can use the spill over rules. So, if there are some potential unused visas in Family category they can add it to Employment category and vice versa. This will all work in the same year. It will not work or get transferred to a following year. In your initial argument, you said, because all the family visas for 2008 are completely used, we won't get anything from that category as spill over during this year (2009).
If your argument is correct, there won't be any need for recapture laws that we all are working for. If the unused can be given to the next year, no visa will get wasted. USCIS/DOS can just give the unused in family category to Employment category in the following year and vice versa.
In reality that is not the case. Visa number in one year will not flow to the next. So, your original argument is completely wrong. If there is nothing left in family category for the year 2008, that has nothing to do with the expected spill over to Employment category from family category in 2009.
In my opinion, law is complex and snippets of the law from here and there won't will not clarify anything. So, if anyone would like to be optimistic, stay there, to be pessimistic, stay there - this whole argument by MPADAPA is not enough to change your state of mind :) Just my observation!
I know you have spent some time analyzing the whole stuff and came with your conclusions. At the end, if someone says that the crux of your conclusions are wrong, for an emotional person, it would be tough to take. A rational person would take it lightly and think before responding. In your immediate previous reply, you just cherry picked a quote from my previous reply and put that as my interpretation. Please do not put words into my mouth. My reply has been pasted below in its entirety.
You have campared the paragraph with NumbersUSA argument etc. Dear friend, my argument was exactly opposite to that paragraph. I think, you didn't get the meaning of the paragraph itself. My paragraph contained phrases like "If your argument is correct..", ". If the unused can be given to ..". etc, which makes the argument exactly opposite to what mentioned there. So, that means I believe exactly opposite to those arguments.
I acknowledge that you have every right to interpret the law in whichever way you want. My point is that, it really doesn't matter to all of the folks who applied in EB2 and waiting for GC. The thing that really matters is the way in which USCIS acts this year. They can act in whatever way they want. This year, if they say, there won't be any family visa wastage, we will get nothing. Contrary to that, if they see that by the end of the year there is a chance for 15K family vis wastage, they may allocate that to employment category.
To all EB2 folks out there: No need to really feel bad or happy about the analysis of Mr. MPADAPA.
My general advice to anyone who put forward an argument for propaganda and a campaign is: Don't massage the facts, don't twist the facts, don't over analyze, don't under analyze, Also don't say that your interpretation is the final verdict. Because, even if we can analyze all the immigration related laws in the whole Federal register, we may not be able to come to a final conclusion....!! Why? Because you don't have a clue what is in the field manual and internal memos of the USCIS and you don't know how they procedurely allocate spill over etc on each year. As long as USCIS and DOS can use the terms "In Anticipation..", "As per our expectations..", no one will be able to hold them accountable for the visa wastage.
MPADAPA..you may continue your argument/discussions, if you think this is a moot point. But I don't believe so.
If you can prove your initial basic argument with complete facts and details, I will openly declare, I am wrong! Your original argument was "Since the family category used up all Visa numbers in 2008, in 2009 EB2 cannot expect any spill over from Family category and hence we need to expect slow movement....".
Instead of proving the above, you may cherry pick my statements and continue to beat about the bush. I am giving up here my friend.
Good luck :)
realizeit, you just didn't get the unused visa calculation.
By the way your interpretation quoted below is exactly what numbersUSA used to claim that there is no visa available for recapture. And they used that argument to shoot down our recapture bill.
Knowing that PD's aren't going to move forward drastically, we need to start working towards some thing drastic like a bill/amendment. Or we can sit and mull over it and wait until the second week of Aug (when Sep bulletin is announced) to show our frustration.
My complete earlier reply
Still I disagree my friend. I know, law is the law! What I am disagreeing is your interpretation and conclusion.
In reality, towards the end of the Fiscal year, if USCIS/State Dept finds that visas will go unused in one category, they can use the spill over rules. So, if there are some potential unused visas in Family category they can add it to Employment category and vice versa. This will all work in the same year. It will not work or get transferred to a following year. In your initial argument, you said, because all the family visas for 2008 are completely used, we won't get anything from that category as spill over during this year (2009).
If your argument is correct, there won't be any need for recapture laws that we all are working for. If the unused can be given to the next year, no visa will get wasted. USCIS/DOS can just give the unused in family category to Employment category in the following year and vice versa.
In reality that is not the case. Visa number in one year will not flow to the next. So, your original argument is completely wrong. If there is nothing left in family category for the year 2008, that has nothing to do with the expected spill over to Employment category from family category in 2009.
In my opinion, law is complex and snippets of the law from here and there won't will not clarify anything. So, if anyone would like to be optimistic, stay there, to be pessimistic, stay there - this whole argument by MPADAPA is not enough to change your state of mind :) Just my observation!
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missourian
05-29 05:22 PM
Sorry if this is a stupid question, I am a new member
My PD is 02/01/2005, my labour cert got approved in 03/01/2006,
I applied EB3 I40 on 05/18/2007 and got approved on 05/23/2007
Considering the scenario is my I140 invalid?
My PD is 02/01/2005, my labour cert got approved in 03/01/2006,
I applied EB3 I40 on 05/18/2007 and got approved on 05/23/2007
Considering the scenario is my I140 invalid?
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acecupid
06-02 06:39 PM
what the heck happenned. The text has completely changed since I voted. When I voted it clearly stated the unused visas would be recaptured for family based and employment based immigrants. now it only says for family based immigrants. Have we (employment based) been shafted, is visa recapture for us Eb immigrants or not?
Where did you read the new text ?
Where did you read the new text ?
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asindu
07-14 10:03 PM
IN RESPONSE to AKRED: My dads priority date is july 2005, so how does that give me amnesty...he applied under PERM!!! Btw if you do not support DREAM ACT than you shouldn't be on this forum...
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rajuseattle
08-22 11:48 AM
guys,
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Nothing new about this, lot of websites already published this information.
OH Law firm did post the reliable and credible information from Chaerlie Openheim (VB in charge from state Dept) and his predictions for Oct 2007 VB are similar to the January 2007 VB.
Nothing new about this, lot of websites already published this information.
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07-02 03:18 PM
Roughly 2500 $ , not inlcuding filing fee and lawyer fee
nikamd
05-11 06:03 PM
Gaz,
Totally agree with you. We always think and hope grass is greener on the other side and in this case we may not realize now difficult it might be for these kids to have a normal life.
In our case by which I mean the EB community we have our own issues which for us would see the most important and of the highest priority. I am also in the same boat and think about it day in and day out. I just think about it and my actions to improve the situation have been insignificant. Hats off to you all for trying to improve the situation and contribute in changing the system.
Totally agree with you. We always think and hope grass is greener on the other side and in this case we may not realize now difficult it might be for these kids to have a normal life.
In our case by which I mean the EB community we have our own issues which for us would see the most important and of the highest priority. I am also in the same boat and think about it day in and day out. I just think about it and my actions to improve the situation have been insignificant. Hats off to you all for trying to improve the situation and contribute in changing the system.
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01-25 10:04 AM
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