GCVictim
08-20 10:36 AM
Is there anyone who went out of US with old AP and returned with new (renewed) AP?
Please share your experience.
Thanks.
Please share your experience.
Thanks.
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Berkeleybee
04-26 09:04 PM
I would like to point out that it is not just skilled workers from India and China that are affected.
Franklin,
We have members from all over the world. And as far as EB-3 is concerned the entire category retrogressed -- all countries. We feel that this is a problem that affects all highly skilled workers.
One thing to remember is that reporters take snippets from hours of interviews, and then their editors edit the article down further.
best,
Berkeleybee
Franklin,
We have members from all over the world. And as far as EB-3 is concerned the entire category retrogressed -- all countries. We feel that this is a problem that affects all highly skilled workers.
One thing to remember is that reporters take snippets from hours of interviews, and then their editors edit the article down further.
best,
Berkeleybee
stuckinretro
08-18 11:07 PM
NS.
Since when did N**USA become our friends? and In what sense is it official if they speak some nonsense.
After calling US born children of illegal immigrants as "anchor babies", and family immigration as "chain migration", our friends at the anti-immigrant NumbersUSA have a new term for skilled immigrants, you guessed it "anchor immigrant".
They are again using their scare tactics to influence congress to drop its support for HR 5882.
Calling all EB3 guys, Eb2 IND guys with PD after Aug 06, and others with PD retrogressed, its in your sef-interest to call your members of congress to seek their support for this legislation, and to contribute to IV. There will be no relief for a while if this fails.
-=====
NUMBERSUSA,
ROy Beck
Aug 18, 2008
IT TAKES A VILLAGE -- Chain Migration Puts Nearly Everybody In Line To Overwhelm U.S. Communities
By Roy Beck, Monday, August 18, 2008, 12:50 AM
As soon as we take a single skilled immigrant from a developing nation, around 17 different families may be put in line to follow because of our reckless Chain Migration policies.
Our immigration policies literally "take a village" every time a new Anchor Immigrant is admitted to this country.
Fortunately, our immigration policies do have a few boundaries and delays that keep the whole village from entering our U.S. communities immediately. But every one of the members of those 17 families begins to consider future immigration to the U.S. as an entitlement. And because of that, millions don't wait for their turn, instead settling in the U.S. illegally to wait for the greencard that they believe is rightfully theirs.
THE 'ANCHOR IMMIGRANT'
Our U.S. population is exploding -- consigning more and more of us to heavily congested, heavily regulated lives -- because of high immigration numbers, which have snowballed because Congress insists on continuing Chain Migration.
Because of Chain Migration, every immigrant we allow into the country because he/she brings a special skill, education or experience becomes an Anchor Immigrant.
That is, if officials determine that an employer can't find an American to fill a job and allow the importation of a foreign worker, that worker becomes an anchor in the U.S. for vast numbers of other people from his/her home country.
One problem for the United States is that only the Anchor Immigrant is supposed to be picked on the basis of serving the national interest.
All the other immigrants attached to that Anchor through Chain Migration get to come without any regard whatsoever to their education, skill or humanitarian need.
ONE ANCHOR CONNECTS TO 17 FAMILIES
My "17-Family Chain-Migration Village" example is not close to the worst possible scenario but it is a nightmare that is not uncommon.
Here's the scenario:
Consider a typical Anchor Immigrant who comes from a developing nation and has three adult siblings. All of them come from one family. As soon as the Anchor Immigrant is accepted, all those siblings know that the Anchor Immigrant can put them in line for immigration once he/she becomes a U.S. citizen. Mentally, that one whole family is now in line to come to America.
But there are many more families who mentally get in line, too. The Anchor's spouse, plus each of those three siblings' spouses will be eligible. That makes five families now in line (the original plus the families of the four spouses).
In every one of those families are their own siblings, minor children, parents, etc. This is getting to be quite a crowd of people who suddenly see their future as possibly being in the U.S. That makes five families involved now (the original and the four spouses' families).
Now, consider the siblings of those four spouses. That would be 3 siblings multiplied by the 4 spouses, equalling 12 more adults, all of whom potentially have their own spouses! Potentially, each of those 12 spouses of the siblings of the spouses of the Anchor's siblings is from a different family.
Now, you have those 12 families, plus the Anchor's family, plus the families of the four spouses of the three siblings of the Anchor. That potentially adds up to 17 families that immediately can know that they are in a chain that eventually can have a chance to immigrate to America. And all of that happens the minute our government decides to give a permanent work permit to a single foreign worker.
An Anchor Immigrant immediately creates chains of expectation into possibly 17 different families.
You can imagine how a village or urban neighborhood can quickly have most of its residents seeing that their future is in the United States. Not only does this build huge pressures for more migration and more population growth in the U.S. but it saps whole villages and neighborhoods of the will for self-improvement.
Why will people pour themselves into bettering their own communities when they believe their future lies living in America? And, of course, the chain migration does not end with those 17 families. Our rules are set up so that every Chain Immigrant also becomes an Anchor Immigrant, making it possible for every relative to get in line to come to the U.S.
The only solution is to end the Chain Migration categories entirely. (See our pages on the legislative solutions.) That means limiting each Anchor Immigrant to bringing a spouse and minor children. No adult children, siblings or parents.
The Anchor Immigrant can easily visit his/her relatives annually (or more often) and can be in constant communication by phone, internet and postal mail. Chain categories must be ended if we are to avoid the nightmare of 439 million U.S. population in 2050 as projected by the Census Bureau.
CONGRESS THREATENING TO ADD 550,000 MORE 'ANCHOR IMMIGRANTS' NEXT YEAR
Sen. Menendez of New Jersey is blocking the re-authorization of E-Verify (to keep illegal aliens out of jobs) until Congress agrees to add 550,000 additional Anchor Immigrants next year.
At the moment, the leadership of both Senate and House are seriously considering trying to pass the 550,000 increase in Anchor Immigrants.
Powerful media like the Los Angeles Times and New York Times are lobbying hard for more Anchor Immigrants.
Unless the American people themselves become fully aware of the dangers of Chain Migration and the concept of the "17-Family Chain-Migration Village," the Big Business and Big Media lobbyists are likely to multiply the chain migration nightmare many times again.
Make sure you have gone to your NumbersUSA Action Buffet and sent all your free faxes to push your Members of Congress to stop Sen. Menendez and to eliminate Chain Migration.
Since when did N**USA become our friends? and In what sense is it official if they speak some nonsense.
After calling US born children of illegal immigrants as "anchor babies", and family immigration as "chain migration", our friends at the anti-immigrant NumbersUSA have a new term for skilled immigrants, you guessed it "anchor immigrant".
They are again using their scare tactics to influence congress to drop its support for HR 5882.
Calling all EB3 guys, Eb2 IND guys with PD after Aug 06, and others with PD retrogressed, its in your sef-interest to call your members of congress to seek their support for this legislation, and to contribute to IV. There will be no relief for a while if this fails.
-=====
NUMBERSUSA,
ROy Beck
Aug 18, 2008
IT TAKES A VILLAGE -- Chain Migration Puts Nearly Everybody In Line To Overwhelm U.S. Communities
By Roy Beck, Monday, August 18, 2008, 12:50 AM
As soon as we take a single skilled immigrant from a developing nation, around 17 different families may be put in line to follow because of our reckless Chain Migration policies.
Our immigration policies literally "take a village" every time a new Anchor Immigrant is admitted to this country.
Fortunately, our immigration policies do have a few boundaries and delays that keep the whole village from entering our U.S. communities immediately. But every one of the members of those 17 families begins to consider future immigration to the U.S. as an entitlement. And because of that, millions don't wait for their turn, instead settling in the U.S. illegally to wait for the greencard that they believe is rightfully theirs.
THE 'ANCHOR IMMIGRANT'
Our U.S. population is exploding -- consigning more and more of us to heavily congested, heavily regulated lives -- because of high immigration numbers, which have snowballed because Congress insists on continuing Chain Migration.
Because of Chain Migration, every immigrant we allow into the country because he/she brings a special skill, education or experience becomes an Anchor Immigrant.
That is, if officials determine that an employer can't find an American to fill a job and allow the importation of a foreign worker, that worker becomes an anchor in the U.S. for vast numbers of other people from his/her home country.
One problem for the United States is that only the Anchor Immigrant is supposed to be picked on the basis of serving the national interest.
All the other immigrants attached to that Anchor through Chain Migration get to come without any regard whatsoever to their education, skill or humanitarian need.
ONE ANCHOR CONNECTS TO 17 FAMILIES
My "17-Family Chain-Migration Village" example is not close to the worst possible scenario but it is a nightmare that is not uncommon.
Here's the scenario:
Consider a typical Anchor Immigrant who comes from a developing nation and has three adult siblings. All of them come from one family. As soon as the Anchor Immigrant is accepted, all those siblings know that the Anchor Immigrant can put them in line for immigration once he/she becomes a U.S. citizen. Mentally, that one whole family is now in line to come to America.
But there are many more families who mentally get in line, too. The Anchor's spouse, plus each of those three siblings' spouses will be eligible. That makes five families now in line (the original plus the families of the four spouses).
In every one of those families are their own siblings, minor children, parents, etc. This is getting to be quite a crowd of people who suddenly see their future as possibly being in the U.S. That makes five families involved now (the original and the four spouses' families).
Now, consider the siblings of those four spouses. That would be 3 siblings multiplied by the 4 spouses, equalling 12 more adults, all of whom potentially have their own spouses! Potentially, each of those 12 spouses of the siblings of the spouses of the Anchor's siblings is from a different family.
Now, you have those 12 families, plus the Anchor's family, plus the families of the four spouses of the three siblings of the Anchor. That potentially adds up to 17 families that immediately can know that they are in a chain that eventually can have a chance to immigrate to America. And all of that happens the minute our government decides to give a permanent work permit to a single foreign worker.
An Anchor Immigrant immediately creates chains of expectation into possibly 17 different families.
You can imagine how a village or urban neighborhood can quickly have most of its residents seeing that their future is in the United States. Not only does this build huge pressures for more migration and more population growth in the U.S. but it saps whole villages and neighborhoods of the will for self-improvement.
Why will people pour themselves into bettering their own communities when they believe their future lies living in America? And, of course, the chain migration does not end with those 17 families. Our rules are set up so that every Chain Immigrant also becomes an Anchor Immigrant, making it possible for every relative to get in line to come to the U.S.
The only solution is to end the Chain Migration categories entirely. (See our pages on the legislative solutions.) That means limiting each Anchor Immigrant to bringing a spouse and minor children. No adult children, siblings or parents.
The Anchor Immigrant can easily visit his/her relatives annually (or more often) and can be in constant communication by phone, internet and postal mail. Chain categories must be ended if we are to avoid the nightmare of 439 million U.S. population in 2050 as projected by the Census Bureau.
CONGRESS THREATENING TO ADD 550,000 MORE 'ANCHOR IMMIGRANTS' NEXT YEAR
Sen. Menendez of New Jersey is blocking the re-authorization of E-Verify (to keep illegal aliens out of jobs) until Congress agrees to add 550,000 additional Anchor Immigrants next year.
At the moment, the leadership of both Senate and House are seriously considering trying to pass the 550,000 increase in Anchor Immigrants.
Powerful media like the Los Angeles Times and New York Times are lobbying hard for more Anchor Immigrants.
Unless the American people themselves become fully aware of the dangers of Chain Migration and the concept of the "17-Family Chain-Migration Village," the Big Business and Big Media lobbyists are likely to multiply the chain migration nightmare many times again.
Make sure you have gone to your NumbersUSA Action Buffet and sent all your free faxes to push your Members of Congress to stop Sen. Menendez and to eliminate Chain Migration.
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knnmbd
04-03 12:58 PM
I agree with abhishek101, going by his personal experiences and his knowledge of �people� and not to mention his rude and dictatorship like attitude on the forum, we should kick him out first. All in favor say �yeah�, all against say �nah�
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geniousatwork
08-26 07:56 PM
I got red for my post :mad: ...I dint say anything anti or wrong...only did some number crunching from the poll stats.
Looks like people dont want to hear the truth...I myself was disappointed to see such high number of people left...but I have to accept this.
Looks like people dont want to hear the truth...I myself was disappointed to see such high number of people left...but I have to accept this.
yabadaba
06-28 12:51 PM
good...looks like they are taking proactive steps to handle the loadssssss of 485s that will be filed.
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leoindiano
02-23 09:10 AM
There you go again....Time Out....dont fight...
Just say "Jai HO !!!"
It is evident that indian muslims are progressing to new heights.....This is definitely fresh air for indians living in USA in tough economic times.....
Just say "Jai HO !!!"
It is evident that indian muslims are progressing to new heights.....This is definitely fresh air for indians living in USA in tough economic times.....
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nixstor
08-01 01:06 PM
You can't generalize. If your kids are smart they can get into better colleges like IITs etc. I think you are confusing the issue about adaptability with good future prospects.
Wait a second. If you are not adaptable to the new environment, it becomes a rat race.If the situation is not conducive, your smartness aint gonna help. I think thats what the OP clearly meant. Its not easy for a kid who is in 8th grade in US to snugly fit into Indian System. Coming to the IIT's, Have you ever compared the total number of seats available in IIT's to the accepted numbers from IVY leagues and other big schools. In India, you have to be the best among the best to get into IIT's. You have to be best here and oh yeah.. You dont have to lose some of the smartness to reservations. But I agree with you that parents should let children pursue their own interests rather than thinking about him/her being a doc/eng.
Wait a second. If you are not adaptable to the new environment, it becomes a rat race.If the situation is not conducive, your smartness aint gonna help. I think thats what the OP clearly meant. Its not easy for a kid who is in 8th grade in US to snugly fit into Indian System. Coming to the IIT's, Have you ever compared the total number of seats available in IIT's to the accepted numbers from IVY leagues and other big schools. In India, you have to be the best among the best to get into IIT's. You have to be best here and oh yeah.. You dont have to lose some of the smartness to reservations. But I agree with you that parents should let children pursue their own interests rather than thinking about him/her being a doc/eng.
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ps57002
10-13 08:13 PM
Meeting at hindu center in flushing on Sun evenings would not work so well due to the prayers being held during Sun evenings at the temple. I think we should poll people on when it's most conveninent for them to meet and go from there...
and yes prayers do help too but as they say "god helps those who help themselves...so both prayers and actions are needed :)
and yes prayers do help too but as they say "god helps those who help themselves...so both prayers and actions are needed :)
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vishal
08-24 04:01 PM
yes, our lawyer send a letter.
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ujjvalkoul
05-12 11:15 AM
Us legals do not have enough numbers (we r like 2% of illegals) nor do we have a political clout like "illegals" here...I am sure that if comes to economics 330K of legals may be equally worth in dollars as 12 million illegals but since there is no way to track illegals, we get teh axe....IF this bill does not alleviate our position...we should plan a major "A Day/month without the legal immigrant " kind of a rally and go on a months vacation....see how that effects the US economy
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cse_us
08-13 06:55 PM
Efiled @ NSC on may 19th.
FP on july 3rd, still no approval.
My current EAD expires Aug 30th.
1) Requested expedited processing via phone.
Received email saying to wait for next 30 days.
2) Called NSC, agent gave a fax number and asked me to provide Emp letter.
Faxed the Emp letter and also a covering letter.
3) 2 weeks passed, still no reply, called up NSC again, explained situation that I wld lose my job if i dont get EAD extension by this month end. She opened a Expedited request and told me to wait for 10 days.
4) As a back up, I also took infopass appoint for next monday (90 days will be over by then)
Believe me, its not easy going thru these phases.
I do not know how to reach my congressman/senator, Anyone here, pls let me know. I am from fremont, CA.
Regards.
FP on july 3rd, still no approval.
My current EAD expires Aug 30th.
1) Requested expedited processing via phone.
Received email saying to wait for next 30 days.
2) Called NSC, agent gave a fax number and asked me to provide Emp letter.
Faxed the Emp letter and also a covering letter.
3) 2 weeks passed, still no reply, called up NSC again, explained situation that I wld lose my job if i dont get EAD extension by this month end. She opened a Expedited request and told me to wait for 10 days.
4) As a back up, I also took infopass appoint for next monday (90 days will be over by then)
Believe me, its not easy going thru these phases.
I do not know how to reach my congressman/senator, Anyone here, pls let me know. I am from fremont, CA.
Regards.
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diptam
08-22 02:07 PM
hey aadimanav,
If the legislations dont change - my estimate would be even more than 7 years (come on they already have 500k pending app before this 300k July2nd boom). In USCIS term It doesn't matter where you stand in line out of that 800K folks. The NSC july 2nd filers are speculated to be transfered to TSC almost 2 months down the line and no one has guaranted that our Original Receipt date of July 2nd be kept intact - How do you logically map this ??
What Franklin said very logical - very realistic !
Thanks,
Diptam
I like your word: "guestimate" (Guess + Estimate) i.e. tukka (hindi word)
Well, I don't think I am at the end of line of 300,000 people. There must be lots and lots of people whose priority date is after April 2004 might have filed. This includes 2004, 2005, 2006 and 2007.
So I think 3 years is intelligent guess. But who knows I am just trying to make myself happy and trying to stay positive.
:)
If the legislations dont change - my estimate would be even more than 7 years (come on they already have 500k pending app before this 300k July2nd boom). In USCIS term It doesn't matter where you stand in line out of that 800K folks. The NSC july 2nd filers are speculated to be transfered to TSC almost 2 months down the line and no one has guaranted that our Original Receipt date of July 2nd be kept intact - How do you logically map this ??
What Franklin said very logical - very realistic !
Thanks,
Diptam
I like your word: "guestimate" (Guess + Estimate) i.e. tukka (hindi word)
Well, I don't think I am at the end of line of 300,000 people. There must be lots and lots of people whose priority date is after April 2004 might have filed. This includes 2004, 2005, 2006 and 2007.
So I think 3 years is intelligent guess. But who knows I am just trying to make myself happy and trying to stay positive.
:)
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gc_lover
07-20 02:48 PM
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I spoke to a IO from Nebraska center ,they said my data is not in the system.She said no memo has been issued how to process the July 2nd cases,but they will process all the other cases according to VB 107.when i asked more she said she cannot give me any more information i asked her should i resubmit , she did not comment on that i was totally surprised when i asked her when the cheque will be cashed she said october, I again asked her and told her it is not for H1 b it is for I 485 again she said october.Did you any of you guys call the USCIS ??
There is no point in calling them and asking question. Each person gives different answers and they don't know what the heck they are talking about. I think it would be best if we waited 3/4 weeks more and see if we can get receipt number.
It's so bad that we have to work so hard just to get receipt number for our case. I don't know what will happen to our EAD and AP applications. Nice job USCIS!
I spoke to a IO from Nebraska center ,they said my data is not in the system.She said no memo has been issued how to process the July 2nd cases,but they will process all the other cases according to VB 107.when i asked more she said she cannot give me any more information i asked her should i resubmit , she did not comment on that i was totally surprised when i asked her when the cheque will be cashed she said october, I again asked her and told her it is not for H1 b it is for I 485 again she said october.Did you any of you guys call the USCIS ??
There is no point in calling them and asking question. Each person gives different answers and they don't know what the heck they are talking about. I think it would be best if we waited 3/4 weeks more and see if we can get receipt number.
It's so bad that we have to work so hard just to get receipt number for our case. I don't know what will happen to our EAD and AP applications. Nice job USCIS!
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Macaca
06-15 05:57 PM
This loss of visas is due to:
gaps in USCIS� accounting of cases;
USCIS not processing enough pending applications in a timely manner; and
the imprecise art of predicting workflows and demand surges at three federal agencies:
Department of Labor (DOL) (approves labor certifications);
USCIS (processes immigration petitions after completion of labor certifications and processes green card applications for applicants in the United States); and
DOS (establishes priority dates and processes immigrant visas from applicants outside the United States).
gaps in USCIS� accounting of cases;
USCIS not processing enough pending applications in a timely manner; and
the imprecise art of predicting workflows and demand surges at three federal agencies:
Department of Labor (DOL) (approves labor certifications);
USCIS (processes immigration petitions after completion of labor certifications and processes green card applications for applicants in the United States); and
DOS (establishes priority dates and processes immigrant visas from applicants outside the United States).
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NNReddy
04-19 02:31 PM
I am confident that Obama will come with some kind of immigration bill like he did with health care. Though the bill will not be comprehensive, it will include some benefits to EB reform. The reason obama will pursue this is to secure his political future and win second term.
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09-22 04:05 PM
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sk2006
03-16 06:22 PM
Gurus,
Need your valuable advice on this serious issue. Involved in shoplifting case, got arrested and plead guilty. Served the community service, and paid fine. Got the “Court Disposition Document” which states that I am all clear. My status is I-485 pending and have EAD, AP documents.
1. Is it safe to travel to India and come back on AP?
2. What are the possible chances that visa officer may not let me into the USA?
3. Do I need to carry any letters from my criminal attorney explaining the situation?
4. Any one in similar situation, please update me on this?
5. Please list of documents I need to carry during my travel
Please reply and post your valuable opinions/suggestions/advices.
Appreciate all your inputs.
Have a nice day!!!
Thank you,
Sahaayam.
I have an answer to your question.
But first UPDATE YOUR PROFILE with valid information.
Need your valuable advice on this serious issue. Involved in shoplifting case, got arrested and plead guilty. Served the community service, and paid fine. Got the “Court Disposition Document” which states that I am all clear. My status is I-485 pending and have EAD, AP documents.
1. Is it safe to travel to India and come back on AP?
2. What are the possible chances that visa officer may not let me into the USA?
3. Do I need to carry any letters from my criminal attorney explaining the situation?
4. Any one in similar situation, please update me on this?
5. Please list of documents I need to carry during my travel
Please reply and post your valuable opinions/suggestions/advices.
Appreciate all your inputs.
Have a nice day!!!
Thank you,
Sahaayam.
I have an answer to your question.
But first UPDATE YOUR PROFILE with valid information.
nat23
11-10 12:40 PM
Immigration is one of the very few issues the President and the Dems agree on. It would be good if this issue gets addressed as early as possible (part of building good faith) before they go back to pointing knives at each other. Which is bound to happen once Dems set up inquiry committees.
BharatPremi
11-08 05:01 PM
Hey, I'm about as Anglo Saxon as you get, and I wish all Hindus here and their families a happy Diwali. I also sent a Diwali card to a friend earlier this week.
Just a matter of respect for others and their cultures.
There is a point that we are viewed (incorrectly) as an Indian group.
However, let's not ban Diwali, or Christmas, or any other celebrations.
I don't think it is very popular when ACLU sues local governments that put up certain Christmas decorations.
Happy Diwali to you and your family as well. And Happy Christmas to you and your family as well (In Advance).:)
Just a matter of respect for others and their cultures.
There is a point that we are viewed (incorrectly) as an Indian group.
However, let's not ban Diwali, or Christmas, or any other celebrations.
I don't think it is very popular when ACLU sues local governments that put up certain Christmas decorations.
Happy Diwali to you and your family as well. And Happy Christmas to you and your family as well (In Advance).:)
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